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john, this is not officially a disaster of debate prep for mitt romney. you know, as you know, debate handlers have come up with zingers before to candidates, but they do not leak to the media ahead of time that they have a big bag of zingers ready to go. they actually try to let the candidate take some credit for being clever and quick on his feet. this is now a hopeless situation for romney. >> i've become increasingly convinced when they're talking about zingers they're talking about the hostess snack cakes. there's been so much telegraphing of punches of the romney campaign not only with the zinger comments but also last week when they started telegraphing the notion they were going to take on the president on his vars veracity, they were going to challenge his onsti. they're tal graphed so gratuitously, it makes me think that some of these things must be decoys and that mitt romney is not going to try to throw zingers on him or he's going to do what he does need to do which is to look presidential. there's still a huge number of people in the country
john, this is not officially a disaster of debate prep for mitt romney. you know, as you know, debate handlers have come up with zingers before to candidates, but they do not leak to the media ahead of time that they have a big bag of zingers ready to go. they actually try to let the candidate take some credit for being clever and quick on his feet. this is now a hopeless situation for romney. >> i've become increasingly convinced when they're talking about zingers they're talking about...
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governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think we're talking about wednesday morning, brett o'donnell? are we talking about how great of a performance he had or are we saying agh, this thing is probably over? >> no, first of all i think these could be great debates. you have two very capable debaters heading into the debates. and i think we're going to come out and learn more about the president's policies and learn that it was the president who is responsible for the economic conditions of millions of americans are suffering through right now. >> brett, i was going to give you the last line. i can't let it end there. richard, is that the
governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think...
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mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went through a long primary practice where he got beat up a lot and got to beat up other people. barack obama had no primary process and has not been in a debate since his debates in the last election. so i think he's got -- he's not in fighting shape is my guess and all these practices he's doing, are to get him in the fighting shape. hopefully they have enough time to do it and hopefully he has a sparring opponent in john kerry who is not pulling any punches, not being as respectful to him as his staff might be and showing him that mitt romney is going to get on the stage knowing this is probably his last chance and he's going to be very aggressive in taking on obama. >> steve, thank you very much for your time. >> good to be here. >> steve, what do you think about this idea that debates don't usually change the race entirely all by themselves, but they confirm the narrative that has already been going on in the country? >> well, they can confirm the narrative but we keep coming
mitt romney's had a lot of debates. he went through a long primary practice where he got beat up a lot and got to beat up other people. barack obama had no primary process and has not been in a debate since his debates in the last election. so i think he's got -- he's not in fighting shape is my guess and all these practices he's doing, are to get him in the fighting shape. hopefully they have enough time to do it and hopefully he has a sparring opponent in john kerry who is not pulling any...
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i think that we forget that romney is a great debater. we saw in the primaries that he was really everyone's favorite in the debates. so i think we can expect that he will do a good job. frankly, i would argue that he's more comfortable on the debate stage than he is ordering a milk shake at mcdonald's. so i do think he's in his element on the debate stage. he will have memorized lines. the only way he's really going to, like i said, hit it out of the ballpark is to show us a side of him that he's never seen before and really surprise us. >> abby, let me ask you one question. the last time we had an i incumbent candidate that was challenged, ignoring bob dole's attempt to bring it on kind of. listen to this in their debate. >> mr. president, what do you say to senator dole's point that this election is about keeping one's word? >> when i ran for president, i said we could cut the deficit in half and we cut it by 60%. i said our economic plan would produce 8 minullion jobs and we created 10 million jobs. >> i can only tell thaw i don't thi
i think that we forget that romney is a great debater. we saw in the primaries that he was really everyone's favorite in the debates. so i think we can expect that he will do a good job. frankly, i would argue that he's more comfortable on the debate stage than he is ordering a milk shake at mcdonald's. so i do think he's in his element on the debate stage. he will have memorized lines. the only way he's really going to, like i said, hit it out of the ballpark is to show us a side of him that...
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romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to describe that in a way people will understand, and if they do, i get elected. >> reporter: his running mate, paul ryan, is already preparing for his own debate a week away. >> i really believe in the policies that we're providing, we're pursuing. and at the end of the day, i'm just going to go in there and be me. >> reporter: and if you can't control what actually happens in the debate, you certainly control what happens afterwards. the spin already in the planning. ryan's going to be with romney in virginia. the president is staying in colorado for a rally there. veronica? >> trac
romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy....
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president obama is a good debater. mitt romney is a good debater. i don't see any one of them falling flat. that's the problem for the romney debate. >> chris kofinis, did i just hear you not trying to manage expectations? >> i'm not good on expectations. the reality is they're both good debaters. >> is that true, john? do the debates favor one or the other? >> people know he's a very good debater but the problem he has is he still has to bring a record that i think bemost accounts is remarkably mediocre. i can tell you having run those debates. he knows basically how to deliver a message. >> john brabender, chris kofinis, thank you. >> thank you. >>> also this morning, 14 are dead, 14 others wunlded after two major explosions in syria. both were car bombs set off at the syrian army headquarters. a third explosion went off near the prime ministry. the targets were syria's top military commanders. >> things are calmer in greece but it got eggly on the streets of athens earlier. they're protesting new austerity measures. police were throwing tear gas
president obama is a good debater. mitt romney is a good debater. i don't see any one of them falling flat. that's the problem for the romney debate. >> chris kofinis, did i just hear you not trying to manage expectations? >> i'm not good on expectations. the reality is they're both good debaters. >> is that true, john? do the debates favor one or the other? >> people know he's a very good debater but the problem he has is he still has to bring a record that i think...
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he can keep trying to shift the debate toward those romney weaknesses. in particular, the sense he's out of touch with the middle class. you'll hear the number 47 as often as obama can get it into the debate. >> you think he can come off as aloof. when you look at the polls, the one thing he's consistently exceeded mitt romney at is likability. >> right. yet he does have -- it's partly it's proffesorial. when he looks like john kennedy he's on an upslope. he's not so good when he thinks he is way ahead and konts respect an opponent. i have a hunch he is hearing that from his folks in that room in nevada saying, you can't make a mistake like that. >> part of it is who you compare him to. he's aloof compared to bill clinton. bill clinton has a touch. >> everyone is aloof compared to bill clinton. >> exactly. >> let's talk about mitt romney. strengths, weakness. >> mitt romney's strength is that he is, comes across as competent, as a capable human being. as somebody who projects an air of authority, especially when he talks about the economy. that is the pr
he can keep trying to shift the debate toward those romney weaknesses. in particular, the sense he's out of touch with the middle class. you'll hear the number 47 as often as obama can get it into the debate. >> you think he can come off as aloof. when you look at the polls, the one thing he's consistently exceeded mitt romney at is likability. >> right. yet he does have -- it's partly it's proffesorial. when he looks like john kennedy he's on an upslope. he's not so good when he...
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mitt romney debated against ted kennedy back in the '90s. he debated one on one when he ran for governor. he probably turned his campaign around when he ran for governor and won the governorship because of what happened in that debate. and listen to the republicans, don't listen to me because nobody's -- i'm, obviously, partisan. but just this morning on "morning joe," newt gingrich, who debated him many, many times, said that he got clobbered by him, that mitt romney, when he had to down in florida, literally turned things around, everybody saw that and knows that. mitt romney debated -- tim pawlenty said he's as good as a debater as there is, i'm telling you that because i debated him all the time. these are guys that ran against him. the fact is that mitt romney is very good debater. he's done a very good job. he's practiced and practiced and practiced and he's been flying around with, you know, the person playing obama on his airplane every minute. he's gone away and done five debates in 48 hours up in new hampshire or vermont or somewhe
mitt romney debated against ted kennedy back in the '90s. he debated one on one when he ran for governor. he probably turned his campaign around when he ran for governor and won the governorship because of what happened in that debate. and listen to the republicans, don't listen to me because nobody's -- i'm, obviously, partisan. but just this morning on "morning joe," newt gingrich, who debated him many, many times, said that he got clobbered by him, that mitt romney, when he had to...
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. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> flashpoint libya, the white house on the defensive after reports of both security and intelligence nurse in benghazi before that terror attack. >> standing up, sitting down. >> which ever one you like. >> there you go. >> do whatever they tell us. >> the white house line is you heard the president say, osama bin laden is dead, al qaeda is done, everything is fine in the middle east. this, obviously, contradicts -- ther series of events contradicts that campaign slogan. so, the fact is, that this was clearly an act of terror committed by people who were pretty well trained jihadists. >> more carnage in afghanistan. the taliban take responsibility for a suicide attack that killed 14 today including three americans. we are deployed in the h
. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> flashpoint libya, the white house on the defensive after reports of both security and intelligence nurse in benghazi before that terror attack. >> standing up, sitting down....
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i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years, how in lord's name can they justify? >> god bless him. >> mark mckinnon -- i love him. mike, we love him. we love him! has anybody not told him, they've been in the white house for the past four years? buried? the middle class has been buried over the past four years. >> joe, i am being deadly earnest now, man. deadly earnest. okay? on how anybody -- how anybody can attempt to bury the vice president is beyond me. >> i'm not trying to bury him. i got a good laugh out of it. mark mckinnon, you think we may hear the middle cl
i also think mitt romney will bring this up in the debate. something that was spoken yesterday in charlotte, north carolina, by our dear friend joe biden. roll it. >> the romney/ryan tax plan will raise taxes on middle-class families with a child, one or more children, by an additional $2,000 a year. how -- all kidding aside, with all the boos, look, guys, this is deadly earnest, man. this is deadly earnest! how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class...
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the romney campaign is debating how forcefully to engage the libya issue. some are advising it's good to use as a stand-in for overall failures of the president. romney tries to do that in a wall street op-ed writing disturbing developments are sweeping across the greater middle east, these developments are not, as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk. yet amid this upheaval, our country seems to be at the mercy. >> the response was slow, it was confused. it was inconsistent. they first said it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know it was a planned terrorist attack. if this was one tragic incident, that would be a tragedy in and of itself. the problem is it's part of bagger picture of the fact that the obama foreign policy is unraveling lit literally before our eyes an on tvs. >> perhaps it's too rich of a debate target for romney to try not to bring up. that said, and by the way, here's another aspect of this. do you do an op-ed in "the wall street journal" 48 hours before the de
the romney campaign is debating how forcefully to engage the libya issue. some are advising it's good to use as a stand-in for overall failures of the president. romney tries to do that in a wall street op-ed writing disturbing developments are sweeping across the greater middle east, these developments are not, as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk. yet amid this upheaval, our country seems to be at the mercy. >> the response...
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he is dealing with the joe wilson school of debate, something we've seen from romney before. he tries to newt traize his own weaknesses by turning them against president obama. how much time it gives the obama campaign to prepare and to ji jut sue it. now obama can go into that debate ready to talk about the many lies and misspeaks of the romney campaign, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to say, you know what, let's do not this, mitt. let's not point fingers at one another. let's rise above it and each tell the american people what we are capable of. >> let me ask you this, alicia, because we just had nbc wall street journal marist poll release new figures. president is up seven points in new hampshire, up by two points in nevada and north carolina. and in a poll released yesterday, up ten points in ohio, nine points in florida. up by 12 points in pennsylvania. is this why we are seeing these desperate measures now? clean across the board, every poller is saying he's up, up
he is dealing with the joe wilson school of debate, something we've seen from romney before. he tries to newt traize his own weaknesses by turning them against president obama. how much time it gives the obama campaign to prepare and to ji jut sue it. now obama can go into that debate ready to talk about the many lies and misspeaks of the romney campaign, whether that be the mischaracterization of obama's medication plan or obama who killed simpson/bowles. i think obama is going to be able to...
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i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate that is going to do extraordinarily well on wednesday night. when we get to thursday morning george, you're going to be shaking your head saying it's a brand new race with 33 days to go. >> governor christie right in the sense that romney needs to change the dynamic of the race. a new "washington post"/abc news survey find 5s 5% of voters think the president will win the debates compared to 31% who believe rom wil win. romney adviser tell "the new york times" they're aiming to make the president come off as condescending or smug. that characterized obama's notable gaffe during the 2008 primary when hillary clinton was asked what she would say
i don't know what will happen at the debates. >> governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the soft performance has gotten so soft it's almost evaporated. but while almost everyone seems to be muting enthusiasm in trying to undersell new jersey governor chris christie is taking a different tack. overselling with gusto. >> come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. we have a candidate that is going to do extraordinarily well on...
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romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal departmentation to allow them to work here. >> i can't have illegals. rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here is i get 60 seconds. and then you get 30 seconds to respond, right? >> well, let's bring in democratic strategist chris ko kofinis and susan del percio. i think romney is going to lose his cool. susan, did governor chris christie think he was helping mitt romney by saying that the debate would just be turning this race upside down? what do you think? >> i think chris christie was just being chris christie. while you're correct, a lot of people were dampening expectations, chris said what a lot of p
romney obviously did well enough in the primary debates to make it this far, no doubt. although most of his competition wasn't as tough as president obama. romney also had some memorable moments. >> i'll tell you what. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> the answer is self-deportation, which is people decide they can do better by going home because they can't find work here because they don't have legal departmentation to allow them to work here. >> i...
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i don't think mitt romney will be able to do that effectively during the course of the debate, because in the debate he has to try to appeal to the middle. i think they wanted to get a little something out there for the base, so is that they would have -- so that today they could be, you know, talking about that horrible, you know, barack obama, the black man, in advance of the debate. >> yeah, absolutely, shock, horror, barack obama is a black man. michael, i've read your outstanding piece in which you talk about the fact that the process of fact-checking by voters has actually declined. it's almost a suggestion we've had so many lies through this campaign, and i can think of at least 60 delivered by the romney/ryan camp, that people are just not responding to it anymore. >> you know, the irony is the press is actually much better at calling out these deceptions but the public has not yet shown they are willing to move on these deceptions. they don't -- they for give their own guy for deceiving and they love blaming the other guy for deceiving. there hasn't been any punishment. if you
i don't think mitt romney will be able to do that effectively during the course of the debate, because in the debate he has to try to appeal to the middle. i think they wanted to get a little something out there for the base, so is that they would have -- so that today they could be, you know, talking about that horrible, you know, barack obama, the black man, in advance of the debate. >> yeah, absolutely, shock, horror, barack obama is a black man. michael, i've read your outstanding...
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romney campaign co-share will be here to preview the debate. we'll also talk to debar wasser man shultz about what's at stake for the president. >>> is it the spirit of america? a feisty debate for elizabeth warren and scott brown. both struggled on basic answers on washington. scalia and lugar. good morning from littleton, colorado, just outside of denver in the all-important denver suburbs. the swingiest part of the state. it's tuesday, october 2nd, 2012. i'm chloyce talbott. mitt romney landed in colorado last night and scored the endorsement of the big guy. the legendary quarterback and now executive vice president of football operations john elway. it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than
romney campaign co-share will be here to preview the debate. we'll also talk to debar wasser man shultz about what's at stake for the president. >>> is it the spirit of america? a feisty debate for elizabeth warren and scott brown. both struggled on basic answers on washington. scalia and lugar. good morning from littleton, colorado, just outside of denver in the all-important denver suburbs. the swingiest part of the state. it's tuesday, october 2nd, 2012. i'm chloyce talbott. mitt...
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snoou. >>> mitt romney has been preparing for the debate by debating a republican senator, who's playing the part of president obama. yeah. meanwhile, president obama has been preparing for romney by debating an atm machine. ally bank. why they're always there to talk. i love you, james. don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has knowledgeable people there for you, night and day. ally bank. your money needs an ally. >>> have you checked us out on facebook? the "politicsnation" nation conversation is going around the clock. today our facebook family cheered the voter i.d. decision in pennsylvania. anthony says, it's the best political news he's heard this season. and patricia says, i live in pennsylvania and this november i'm voting against anyone in the state that voted for the i.d. law. this photo of romney's getting lunch at chipotle in colorado was the other big hit of the day. heidi says, romney definitely looks out of his element. an
snoou. >>> mitt romney has been preparing for the debate by debating a republican senator, who's playing the part of president obama. yeah. meanwhile, president obama has been preparing for romney by debating an atm machine. ally bank. why they're always there to talk. i love you, james. don't you love me? i'm a robot. i know. i know you're a robot! but there's more in you than just circuits and wires! uhhh. (cries) a machine can't give you what a person can. that's why ally has...
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is mitt romney going to work this into the debate? >> you saw mitt romney's op-ed in the "wall street journal" monday. a three levelled argument about economic growth, reasserting american values and doing something different than the obama administration has done on foreign policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that can or will be affected in the future economically. so i wouldn't be surprised at all if what you saw in that op-ed that governor romney wrote for the "wall street journal" doesn't become part of a response to a larnler conversation about not just economics in america, but the economic projection, the values projection and foreign policy pro jex. >> let me ask you about the deb krzyzewskied. it's going to be six segments. the moderator has some ability to let it go and bring the conversation more broadly. breathe more than we've seen in the past. does that favor
is mitt romney going to work this into the debate? >> you saw mitt romney's op-ed in the "wall street journal" monday. a three levelled argument about economic growth, reasserting american values and doing something different than the obama administration has done on foreign policy as it relates to the arab spring. i think if the governor wants to, he can use this format, which is open ended on the economy, talk about the economy, but also about american strength and how that...
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romney's high unfavorable numbers can be linked to awkward and cringe-inducing moments in debates and on the campaign trail. let's listen to some. >> rick, i'll tell you what, 10,000 bucks? $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> we could raise taxes on people. that's not -- >> corporation! >> corporation! >> corporations are people, my friend. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty ♪ above the fruited plain >> well, i don't know why he got into the fruited plain there, but de. the problem is not so much his singing voice, which is not worse or better than my own, i must say, but he does say things like instinctively when you let romney be romney, bet you 10,000 bucks, quick, put it on the table, i've got it in my wallet. this thing about corporations being people. no, they're not. corporations fire people. corporations are bottom line institutions. >> he's a very rich guy who just doesn't relate to the struggles of ordinary people. and because he has had this problem for months now, has shown up in the polls, tha
romney's high unfavorable numbers can be linked to awkward and cringe-inducing moments in debates and on the campaign trail. let's listen to some. >> rick, i'll tell you what, 10,000 bucks? $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> we could raise taxes on people. that's not -- >> corporation! >> corporation! >> corporations are people, my friend. ♪ o beautiful for spacious skies for amber waves of grain ♪ ♪ for purple mountains majesty ♪...
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romney so he'll succeed in his debate next week. i suppose mr. romney believes it's on a wing and a prayer does he? >> well, certainly they're going to prep very strongly very hard for this debate. he certainly has a strong group of followers and supporters who are going to be absolutely rooting for him, as the president does. i think they're taking it very seriously and not leaving anything to chance. >> perry to you do you think that mr. romney's recent experience during those republican primaries may lull him into a false sense of security since he was debating against einsteinian figures as herman cain and michele bachmann? >> i'm sure they know the difference between rick perry and mitt romney in debate prep. they're not taking this for granted. he's done all this prep. obama was not great in the '08 debates and romney was not great in the 2012 debates, so there's room for both of these guys for improvement and i expect they're both studying hard to make sure they can do the best they can. i don't think they think michele bachmann and barack
romney so he'll succeed in his debate next week. i suppose mr. romney believes it's on a wing and a prayer does he? >> well, certainly they're going to prep very strongly very hard for this debate. he certainly has a strong group of followers and supporters who are going to be absolutely rooting for him, as the president does. i think they're taking it very seriously and not leaving anything to chance. >> perry to you do you think that mr. romney's recent experience during those...
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and governor romney is a good debater. he won almost every debate in the republican primaries with the exception i think of south carolina. so i expect that there will be movement. i if there's no movement two or three days after the debate, if those figures in the background states stay the same, it really is over. >> katty, there's constant complains among conservatives about romney. why is he losing? that's been the question all along. here is more of that column i mentioned. it makes you think how far ahead romney would be if he were actually running a campaign. his unwillingness to go big is astonishing. a hit-and-run critique here, slogan of the week there. his only momentum when he chose paul ryan and seemed ready to engage on the big stuff, medicare, kbiemthmentes, but he has retreated to the small and safe. when you're behind, safe is fatal. even his counterpunching has gone miniature. >> this reminds me a little bit of the mccain campaign back in 2008 in those days at the end when you felt like the campaign was g
and governor romney is a good debater. he won almost every debate in the republican primaries with the exception i think of south carolina. so i expect that there will be movement. i if there's no movement two or three days after the debate, if those figures in the background states stay the same, it really is over. >> katty, there's constant complains among conservatives about romney. why is he losing? that's been the question all along. here is more of that column i mentioned. it makes...
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romney does five points nationally in some big swing state that romney does need a big move in the debates to change the game. anytime a campaign says a poll is wrong, it's a sign they're not doing well from my experience doing politics. >> susan, if you look at new hampshire where his lead is larger, but in north carolina and nevada it's close, and those are states not doing as well economically. does that make sense to you, that that's where mitt romney would be keeping it closer? i'm trying to get to the heart of this complaint about these skewed polls. >> the idea behind the complaint is it's not the same dynamic as it was in 2008. the idea that democrats would be turning out in the same mhuge numbers as they were in 2008 which some polls suggest doesn't make any sense. the economy is on the verge of another recession according to a lot of nonpartisan think tanks. people are out of work and the unemployment rate is skyrocketing. the idea the democrats turn out with the same numbers and the same level of enthusiasm as they did in 2008 has raised, rightfully so, the number of democrats s
romney does five points nationally in some big swing state that romney does need a big move in the debates to change the game. anytime a campaign says a poll is wrong, it's a sign they're not doing well from my experience doing politics. >> susan, if you look at new hampshire where his lead is larger, but in north carolina and nevada it's close, and those are states not doing as well economically. does that make sense to you, that that's where mitt romney would be keeping it closer? i'm...
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the first presidential debate one day away. this is the romney pre-game show. will mitt romney be held accountable for lies and distortions about president obama's record? we got a sneak preview of what happens when mitt romney is forced to tell the truth. a fox affiliate here in denver asked romney to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to pay for $5 trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you could use your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. >> at least the plan has a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions at $17,000 for all americans. is that good for the middle class? do the math. for rich americans, the cap, it just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being hilarious is it would only cover $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 tr
the first presidential debate one day away. this is the romney pre-game show. will mitt romney be held accountable for lies and distortions about president obama's record? we got a sneak preview of what happens when mitt romney is forced to tell the truth. a fox affiliate here in denver asked romney to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to pay for $5 trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction...
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the expectations and say obama saying mitt romney is a great debater. he's amazing. >> when they come out and say mitt romney can debate, you know they are trying to do something here. >> yeah. see, what do you think -- i'm having trouble getting a sense of what the american people's expectations for these two candidates are. i think the president is the president, so there's going to be a high level of expectation there. i also think mitt romney, though he's lost a little bit in this area, he's seen as a capable business person. so i do think he has a relatively high bar as well. >> i wonder. i don't center a good grasp on it and i'm asking the same question. he never really got to re-introduce himself. we're looking at his approval right now, and he never recovered like a usual nominee out of the primaries. what i noticed this summer and into the fall, there's a lot of coverage of romney the gaffe-prone guy. i wonder if that caricature sets in. >> the gaffes come from being out of touch and not stupid. >> right. i don't think anybody thinks that romne
the expectations and say obama saying mitt romney is a great debater. he's amazing. >> when they come out and say mitt romney can debate, you know they are trying to do something here. >> yeah. see, what do you think -- i'm having trouble getting a sense of what the american people's expectations for these two candidates are. i think the president is the president, so there's going to be a high level of expectation there. i also think mitt romney, though he's lost a little bit in...
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governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> we know both sides are playing this au shuck, i'm just okay. i don't know how i'm going to perform. the president -- >> he's just the president. >> he's been working very hard. he may not be rehearsing zingers but we know, for example, just on the tax loophole question, that paul ryan stumbled and stammered through when on fox news yesterday, there are openings available but the problem, at least that we're hearing, chris, from the obama team, is they're worried his answers will be too long and not crisp and concise. >> well, you know, having watched the president both when he was a candidate for president and as a candidate in the primaries, he's -- he has a tendency to filibuster his answers and kind of -- they kind of meander. i think his debate team is advising correctly to keep things focused and tight if you have a debate format where there's no time limits. the bigger question here is, if the romney campaign is truly focused on zingers, this could be be a deba
governor romney is a good debater. i'm just okay. >> we know both sides are playing this au shuck, i'm just okay. i don't know how i'm going to perform. the president -- >> he's just the president. >> he's been working very hard. he may not be rehearsing zingers but we know, for example, just on the tax loophole question, that paul ryan stumbled and stammered through when on fox news yesterday, there are openings available but the problem, at least that we're hearing, chris,...
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governor romney is a good debater. he won almost every debate in the republican primaries with the exception of think of south carolina. so i expect that there will be movement did there's no movement, and as chuck says, if the poll is two or three days after the debate. if those figures in the battleground states stay the same, it really is over. >> catty, this constant complaint among conservatives about romney. why is he losing? has been what the question is all along. and charles krauthammer i mentioned his column on friday before. here's a little more of the substance where he writes, it makes you think how far ahead romney would be if he were actually running a campaign. his unwillingness to go big, to go for the larger argument is simply astonishing. for six months he's been matching president obama small ball for small ball. i had only momentum came when he chose paul ryan and seemed ready to go on the big stuff, a restructured welfare state. yet he has since retreated to the small and safe. when you're behind,
governor romney is a good debater. he won almost every debate in the republican primaries with the exception of think of south carolina. so i expect that there will be movement did there's no movement, and as chuck says, if the poll is two or three days after the debate. if those figures in the battleground states stay the same, it really is over. >> catty, this constant complaint among conservatives about romney. why is he losing? has been what the question is all along. and charles...
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it is teed up to be a debate about big ideas. is mitt romney going to deliver? >> i am sure that part of the reason this video is out there, just the day before, is to give romney the opportunity to, perhaps, reference it when you talk about the role of government, when you talk about the economy, he's got some phrases he likes to use about more people being on welfare and all of that, so i would imagine we'll hear some of that. i actually disagree with something mark said. i think this was very much a play for the base. even our nbc news poll, 23% of people said, that 47% comment made them like mitt romney better. so there are people out there who agree with those comments. >> aren't they locked up already? that's a question -- >> no. because remember we've also seen reuters has had the polling and a lot of polling that show some low-income southern whites are thinking he's too richy rich. what it shows is he's still in trouble with his own base and now, you know, obviously the way the white house is trying to set this up, the president is going to talk about v
it is teed up to be a debate about big ideas. is mitt romney going to deliver? >> i am sure that part of the reason this video is out there, just the day before, is to give romney the opportunity to, perhaps, reference it when you talk about the role of government, when you talk about the economy, he's got some phrases he likes to use about more people being on welfare and all of that, so i would imagine we'll hear some of that. i actually disagree with something mark said. i think this...
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. >> what's the mood inside mitt romney's debate preps? >> oh, i think he's working hard and eager to get out there and do it. i imagine they both are. you prepare and prepare and want to go out and debate and he's going to present the choice before the american people. we can go on the way we are, which is not all that viable or we can have a change of policies and get the economy moving and the deficit reduced. he's been practicing and i'm sure he'll give a good message tonight. >> one of the troubling factors for him throughout the last couple weeks has been the battleground states, likely voters, battleground states ohio, how do you catch up? how do you thread the needle if you cannot catch up in ohio? >> i think -- this is my belief about independent voters when the stakes are this high, they gather all the information they can before deciding and then they tend to break late and that's what they're going to do and the stakes are usually high. we can't go on -- 1.3% growth, median family income going down and they got a choice to make
. >> what's the mood inside mitt romney's debate preps? >> oh, i think he's working hard and eager to get out there and do it. i imagine they both are. you prepare and prepare and want to go out and debate and he's going to present the choice before the american people. we can go on the way we are, which is not all that viable or we can have a change of policies and get the economy moving and the deficit reduced. he's been practicing and i'm sure he'll give a good message tonight....
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mitt romney has got to -- i think he will define the debate in this answer, whether he is going to be defensive about it or whether he is going to got offense about it. i think that will probably define the whole debate, because it is going to be about the economy tonight. >> these tapes do matter, at least one tape will matter, and that being the one at the private fund-raiser? >> tamron, what i'm talking about everybody is throwing out the videos, a gotcha moment. i think the voters that matter, the undecided, are not concerned about the videos but the direction of the country. i think at 9:00 tonight, the first time, we are going to see both of these folks on stage giving their personal views on what they want to do with this country. i think that's going to be the moment that matters. >> let me get michael n you talked to people all day around the country. some of those people, conservatives, many i imagine are independents as well. i'm curious, off situation here, i know chip said some people on the other side. but you have the drudge report, the daily caller, some of the biggest
mitt romney has got to -- i think he will define the debate in this answer, whether he is going to be defensive about it or whether he is going to got offense about it. i think that will probably define the whole debate, because it is going to be about the economy tonight. >> these tapes do matter, at least one tape will matter, and that being the one at the private fund-raiser? >> tamron, what i'm talking about everybody is throwing out the videos, a gotcha moment. i think the...
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poll showing that president obama is expected to win the debate by a51% and mitt romney by 29%. it seems like president obama is more highly anticipated as the winner of the debate. do these sort of expectations setting games actually work for voters? >> i don't think they matter too much for the voters. it's a lot of fun for us to talk about. you know, as the comedy that you were just playing before suggested, if either one of these guys gets a complete sentence out, it should be a surprise to all of us. look, i think that it -- it matters a little bit on the margins, working the reporters who then report to the public. by and large i think the public is pretty good at making its own judgments. i don't think people walk in going, well, my expectations is about a 4, so if he gets a 6, i'll vote for him. if he gets a 5, no way. i don't think it works that way for most voters. >> i saw an interesting tweet come across the twitter this morning from carole simpson. she said debates are about style and not substance, despite what campaigns say. does he look and sound good is he perso
poll showing that president obama is expected to win the debate by a51% and mitt romney by 29%. it seems like president obama is more highly anticipated as the winner of the debate. do these sort of expectations setting games actually work for voters? >> i don't think they matter too much for the voters. it's a lot of fun for us to talk about. you know, as the comedy that you were just playing before suggested, if either one of these guys gets a complete sentence out, it should be a...
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right now, at this very moment, mitt romney and barack obama are holed up in last-minute debate prep for tomorrow night's main event. speaking to a volunteer nevada yaeds, president obama made it sound like a college cram session minus the no doze and pizza. >> basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> governor romney, however, may have twice the work load. he'll have two opponents on stage tomorrow, president obama and himself. eugene robinson write in "the washington post" -- it prompts to be an epic clash. mitt romney versus mitt romney. oh. and president obama will be there too. this conundrum of what we'll call the paradox of the mittens, dates back to 1994 when senator ted kennedy dropped this debate heat rock. >> on the question of the choice issue, i have supported the row v raid wade, i am pro choice, my opponent is multiple choice. >> so which bubble will the multiple choice candidate fill in on tomorrow night's test? which mitt will triumph on stage. even members of the conservative establishment aren't sure. bill
right now, at this very moment, mitt romney and barack obama are holed up in last-minute debate prep for tomorrow night's main event. speaking to a volunteer nevada yaeds, president obama made it sound like a college cram session minus the no doze and pizza. >> basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they're making me do my homework. >> governor romney, however, may have twice the work load. he'll have two opponents on stage tomorrow, president obama and...
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here is the truth about obama and romney, neither a stellar debater. obama didn't shine in the democratic primary debates, biden won them. that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy biden versus ryan more. trust me. >>> turning back to the brand new battleground polls. there's a different pattern emerging, president obama is ahead in new hampshire, tighter in nevada and north carolina. joining me, director of the marist poll. good to see you in person. >> welcome to the home of the new york yankees. >> you're going to blow the playoff run. >> i am worried. >> we want the beltway series in washington. we have been looking at this as sort of the generic, the general all nine states. what is your take away? >> i think what you're seeing is a ve
here is the truth about obama and romney, neither a stellar debater. obama didn't shine in the democratic primary debates, biden won them. that's why obama picked biden. candidate obama had a tendency to ramble in the debates, got better during mccain one on ones. while romney did well in this season's gop debates, had rough performances, bet you $10,000 he did. romney performances, the unspoken body language that the camera captured, they were brutal against ted kennedy. ivy league will enjoy...
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let me start with the big one, next week's first huge debate between barack obama and mitt romney. no matter what we say now trying to figure this thing out, it's impossible to know what it will feel like when these two men meet, shake hands, and take their positions. the studio where we do "hardball" in washington was the site of the second great debate between richard nixon and john f. kennedy. right before that debate the kennedy brothers arrived to discover something weird had happened. the temperature was meat locker level. so cold they couldn't believe it, and they knew why. kennedy's television adviser went racing to the basement and found nixon's guy standing watch on the thermostat. nixon had sweated in that first debate, and it cost him. this time the nixon people were intent on freezing the room so cold that nixon couldn't sweat at all. well, after a standoff in that basement in our headquarters and some threats to call the police, they agreed to bring the temperature up. well, think this stuff doesn't matter? it all matters. just like everything we do, wear, look like,
let me start with the big one, next week's first huge debate between barack obama and mitt romney. no matter what we say now trying to figure this thing out, it's impossible to know what it will feel like when these two men meet, shake hands, and take their positions. the studio where we do "hardball" in washington was the site of the second great debate between richard nixon and john f. kennedy. right before that debate the kennedy brothers arrived to discover something weird had...
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there are three things mitt romney must too twoin the presidential debate on wednesday. unfortunately, nobody knows what they are. he says the rom knee campaign is never in a state of disarray. roger simon joins us from the sight of the showdown. denver. people overseming this when i use the world showdown, it took my breath away. i don't know what to expect tomorrow. >> this is the most consciously theatr theatrical part of a presidential campaign. we accept the fact that these two men, these two nominees have been rehearsing. they've been sitting or standing on mock stages. they've been memorizing lines. they have onpponents acting the part. yet, the trick is to use a consciously theatrical process to convey sincerity. it's tough. if there is a winner, it's going to be the person who does that. >> absolutely. you say that there are three things that can happen at the debate for romney, and two of them will get him in trouble with his party. what do you mean by that? >> well, he can be above the fray. this is what he was. act presidential and calm. this is how he won mo
there are three things mitt romney must too twoin the presidential debate on wednesday. unfortunately, nobody knows what they are. he says the rom knee campaign is never in a state of disarray. roger simon joins us from the sight of the showdown. denver. people overseming this when i use the world showdown, it took my breath away. i don't know what to expect tomorrow. >> this is the most consciously theatr theatrical part of a presidential campaign. we accept the fact that these two men,...
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romney to change the dynamics of the debate. he's going to help that he can think on his feet and come up with real spontaneous responses, the fact that he's too scripted has actually worked against him. the president has to turn in a work man like performance kind of like he did at the convention, nothing that's spectacular, but nothing that loses him any ground. but a lot of pressure on romney. >> same question to you, wayne, on which one has the more pressure on him factor. >> it's really both, certainly given the way the race has been going, mitt romney has been a lot to prove, this could be a big make or break moment for him. but the way expectations have been set, which is to say that romney, after performing poorly sometimes on the stump and not as well as president obama which of course is lauded for his great oratory, i think people expect a lot from president obama, so if he does turn in a work man like performance, or if he falls into any of his traps, if he looks peevish, anything along those lines, he could have a b
romney to change the dynamics of the debate. he's going to help that he can think on his feet and come up with real spontaneous responses, the fact that he's too scripted has actually worked against him. the president has to turn in a work man like performance kind of like he did at the convention, nothing that's spectacular, but nothing that loses him any ground. but a lot of pressure on romney. >> same question to you, wayne, on which one has the more pressure on him factor. >>...
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obama in these mock debates we have. i don't like him very much jean more. >> governor romney has only one chance. >> president is an eloquent, gifted speaker. >> he must convince voters during the debates. can he do that? >> he may be all knowing but he would still like to know a little more about mitt's tax returns. >> some people more in my camp, a lot of people more in his camp. >> shameless lying liar. >> the left-based mainstream med media. >> fairness is not an attitude. it's a skill. >> i don't think anybody in my business thinks they wouldn't like to be able to rewrite the story. >> let's get right to our esteemed political panel here this afternoon. krystal ball is my colleague and the co-host of msnbc's "the cycle" and lili ana is a hispanic strategist. krystal, according to some on the right it's people like you who are responsible for mitt romney's campaign problems. do you accept responsibility and would you pleads apology? >> fully and completely. mitt romney is running a terrific campaign. we've gotten it
obama in these mock debates we have. i don't like him very much jean more. >> governor romney has only one chance. >> president is an eloquent, gifted speaker. >> he must convince voters during the debates. can he do that? >> he may be all knowing but he would still like to know a little more about mitt's tax returns. >> some people more in my camp, a lot of people more in his camp. >> shameless lying liar. >> the left-based mainstream med media....
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i know mitt romney thinks pakistan is very important. is it inconceivable somebody would ask him why, how, what his plan would be when it comes to that country? politics should move us some distance tort debate and decision making on the hardest problems we face as a country. that is not what we're getting from our politics right now. if we're not getting it now, when are we going to get it? have a great night. >>> tonight, paul ryan finally realizes that mitt romney is the worst thing that ever happened to him. >>> we're exactly six weeks from election day. >> exactly six weeks away. >> and he touched down in ohio. >> ohio. >> ohio. >> ohio. >> romney, ryan, romney ryan. >> there we go, all right. >> does he have any. >> i come back to number three. >> romney is a strikeout. >> if we don't run chris christie, romney will be the nominee and he'll lose. >> it is a big day in the big apple. >> president obama is in new york right now. >> america wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy. >> there was president obama giving a speech. >>
i know mitt romney thinks pakistan is very important. is it inconceivable somebody would ask him why, how, what his plan would be when it comes to that country? politics should move us some distance tort debate and decision making on the hardest problems we face as a country. that is not what we're getting from our politics right now. if we're not getting it now, when are we going to get it? have a great night. >>> tonight, paul ryan finally realizes that mitt romney is the worst thing...
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debate, does give the romney campaign ample opportunity to sort of recalibrate things. but at this stage, i would much rather be with the president than governor romney's campaign. i mean, it's a tough time for them. >> one quick point on the last presidential debate. it will be in boca raton, the very place where that videotape was mailede. >> let me ask you something else, lynn, about those early voters. traditionally they've been people they know who they're going to vote to, decided people. i would take something probably pretty big for them to move it. so the chances, i think, of something catastrophic happening to either candidate making a huge misstep is probably pretty small. but never the less, given the fact that so many states are now started to come online with early voting, how big a factor is that? >> well, in any of these states where the battleground states, which is what we're really talking about, chris, i would think you don't want to take a chance. that's why every time mrs. obama is on the campaign trail, she talks about going up and voting, especia
debate, does give the romney campaign ample opportunity to sort of recalibrate things. but at this stage, i would much rather be with the president than governor romney's campaign. i mean, it's a tough time for them. >> one quick point on the last presidential debate. it will be in boca raton, the very place where that videotape was mailede. >> let me ask you something else, lynn, about those early voters. traditionally they've been people they know who they're going to vote to,...
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so again, not casting dispurgss, but why do this the night before the debate? >> all of the discussion, all of the speculation in the political media is about how high the stakes are for mitt romney tomorrow night. so it changes the subject a little bit. it's a bright, shiny object. it diverts attention away from the huge expectations that he has. mitt romney's lost control pr an expectations perspective to reality. he's behind in the race. he has to have a good debate performance to begin to close the gap to get back in the race and to get ahead of president obama if he's to be elected president. >> so this is sort of a safe -- obviously the romney campaign is hoping they do very well. if they do well, they can pretend this story didn't happen and try to get a bounce out of the debate. if they don't do well, they can fall back on this and hope it crowds out discussion of a bad debate performance? >> i watched the tape earlier online from the speech that the president gave five years ago. i think there's almost zero chance we'll be talking about this tape on th
so again, not casting dispurgss, but why do this the night before the debate? >> all of the discussion, all of the speculation in the political media is about how high the stakes are for mitt romney tomorrow night. so it changes the subject a little bit. it's a bright, shiny object. it diverts attention away from the huge expectations that he has. mitt romney's lost control pr an expectations perspective to reality. he's behind in the race. he has to have a good debate performance to...
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for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? yes, ma'am. 100 calories. yea...i'm gonna need some proof. we get that a lot... let me put you on webcan... see? hearty vegetables... lean roasted chicken... and a creamy broth that tastes indulgent -- but isn't... so feel free to enjoy a bowl anytime. mmm i can still see you. [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> welcome back to "hardball." after initially urging him to drop out, more and more republicans are now endorsing todd akin out in missouri in that senate race against claire mccaskill. today former senator kid bun gave his endorsement but only weeks ago
for the first presidential debate. in 1992 clinton, of course, became the first democrat to carry new hampshire since lyndon johnson did it back in '64, and since then the granite state has voted for a republican president only once when george w. bush won it in 2000. we'll be right back. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? yes, ma'am. 100 calories. yea...i'm gonna need some...